Next up was Furies - a nearly abstract piece of animation about two cats, hand drawn in pastels by Sara Petty. Matt was really impressed with the skill and patience it must have taken to produce the three minute animation - something that would be much easier with computers, and Korean animation teams.

'I didn't study art, but I just cartooned the whole time at school. I did end up doing Life in Hell, though, which I've done every week for 22 years. Animation is very collaborative, so it's a treat to go off by myself and do my own thing, when no-one else sees it until it hits print. Also, you can't edit hand lettering, so it all goes in [the newspaper] the way I want it, or not at all.'

Phil Jupitus then showed Matt a strip from one of the Life in Hell books.

'Oh no! This is when I was still trying! If you look at the Simpsons artwork, and the originals, the style is much more crude than the TV show. If I applied to work on the Simpsons now, I wouldn't be hired - I can't draw them on model.'